Curse

One and Two · Oct 10, 2005, 04:22 AM // 04:22

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Originally Posted by Kakumei

but to anyone who's been playing this game a decent amount of time and knows how it works, these changes are, frankly, ridiculous, as they're so far and away from everything else in guild wars

I gotta say, if anything this guy said, this is right.

Most of these things that you suggest are not Guild Wars, and I'd much rather the development team focus on more important aspects of this game.

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Originally Posted by Enflorence

Necromancers should be more powerful!!! They are pretty lame, for being such a fun profession.

You are such a damn noob. I would argue that Necros are extremely powerful.

Not only that but the crap you desire is like a damn RP community game. In fact, you basically described WoW. Good game, and stop being cheap. Pay 15 bucks a month.

Sister Rosette · Oct 10, 2005, 05:24 AM // 05:24

********************I****************************
Would like the 5 minutes of life back I wasted on reading the OP"s
retarded-ass rantings about how gay he is for WoW.

But he and I have something in common, neither *****him******
nor *******me********* are going to get what *****we****
want.

PS: Throwing stars around a personification doesn't make you any
more important. I just did it for sarcasam.

One and Two · Oct 10, 2005, 05:38 AM // 05:38

Enflorence is a f*cking bitch. Look at his post history. He created this account just so he can go and claim his damn homosexuality to World of Warcraft.

Mumoto · Oct 10, 2005, 06:08 AM // 06:08

Miscellaneous/Common Issues
Idea's I like:

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-New Emotes! (Gotta Love the Emotes)

-New professions/classes (Of Course)

-Combat Log

-Emote /afk does an automated message to any people that PM'ed you lately.

-In-Game Mailing system!!!

Ideas I dislike:

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-Level cap to 40-60

Reason: because there will be more chapters after this, capping to 30 would be alright.

Crafter
I totally disapprove this new profession, what can a crafter do... only craft?
This would be the weakest but yet the richest profession there is in the game, they will earn what normal merchants would do, and they can make their own prices for items, dude that would UNBALANCE the whole economic system in Guild Wars.

Economy
Ideas I like:
-/tip should be a command... Letting you tip someone such as..
/tip bob 12
Enflorence tips bob 12 gold
That person then will receive 12 gold, which will cut back on the trading things.
*Good idea but needs a prompting pop up so that you can verificate your tip*

Ideas I dislike:
-New way of item storage, such as Guild members can maybe rent a room in their guild hall and store an infinite amount of junk in it.
Reason: infinite? that would be nice, but would unbalance the game, since everyone would stash valuable items which will eventually lead to extreme inflation or deflation.

Useless Ideas:
-New auctioning system, where crafters and just players can add items to a auction (Such as a merchant) And sell things.
Reason: It's already considered to be implented.

-Auctions and Trading posts will have their own list of categories for differnt Items. Such as... Axes, Hammers, Wands, Swords, and Staffs or something...
Reason: doh this is logical, otherwise you'd have a list of 5000 several people selling certain stuff, ofcourse they will be categorized.

Current Professions
Ideas I dislike:
-Warriors needs to be increased in role in the society... Also stronger, faster, more energy. And a seperate new adrenaline bar. Along with major new skills for weapons.
Reason: Why do they need to be even stronger, they're strong enough to me ... besides if you make them too strong they'd be able to handle too much which *might* break a little bit of the current 'party-based combat'.

Useless Ideas:
-More skills and weapons and items for every profession
Reason: Isn't it logical that there will be different weapons and items :S

-Elementalists should be able to do a command that could fire at the same as other Elementalists in their group, using the same skill under a command function Like a 5.4.3.2.1. Fire!!! System.
Reason: Dude fighting is to survive, and this will only be 'fun' once when fighting some weak monsters, not really something that should be implented... waste of time.

-Necromancers should be more powerful!!! They are pretty lame, for being such a fun profession.
Reason: I have a Necromancer... they're strong, but it depends on the user if you can't control the skills then you won't be able to take out the full potentional, I can I am usually the only survivor in some looting runs because I use both Blood and Death magic to leech life or summon some minions.

-Once reaching level cap, people can still gain attribute points (But just like 1 per level up) And maybe 2-3 skill points.
Reason: So if people reach your imaginary level 60 they'd be able to up all their attributes to it's highest and they will be able to kill everything, sorry but that unbalances the game.

Weapons/Combat/Items/Armor
Ideas I dislike:
-1v1 PvP!!!!!! You can ask someone to duel in a Town, and that will put out your weapons and he/she will become an aggro, this will be a seperate rated tourney type.
Reason: That will so make the town in a fighting hole, would make a mess of the current only 'resting' place.

-Armor requires certain amount of Level of HP/Energy to wear for certain professions. (The more worse the armor is made the more hp/energy it would take to wear it.) But they still keep added stats such as Energy plus or Weapon plus that can be upgraded by a crafter. Armor should be unique for each profession.
Reason: Dude this is not WoW, I like this way of armoring cause it's illogical to say you're not experienced enough to wear this don't you think?

-Option that will allow you to carry your weapons and armor out, in towns...
Reason: What's the use?

Environment
Ideas I like:
-Less boundaries, like on a little hill that you can actually fall down from... And maybe climb back up but being more slower.
Reason: Because it's kinda annoying to be blocked by 'A corner' lol.

50/50 Ideas:
-Weather effects! Like rain!
Reason: I've seen them in levels, not in several towns though.

New with Expansion Only
50/50 Ideas:
-Instead of 4 alternate characters maybe 6-8
Reason: It'd be nice to have more character slots, but costs more space on the servers, this will be handy if there are a lot more professions.

-Even more New areas (To Expansion only) One of these areas will be a residential area, where you can hire a crafter to make a deed (Which will be expansion Only) And you can place a house down, and others can visit it and go in it, or have to pay a fee to go in, or cant go in at all. But people will need to pay a went of like 10g per week or something. But they can store items in it, the bigger the house the more it can hold.
Reason: Nice idea, but I don't think it's something Guild Wars-like.... Also there are about 1 million players at the moment and rising, if everybody rented a house the place will lag like crap ;p and it will take lots of time implenting it.

-Dwarves play a more major part in the human alliance.
Reason: any examples?

Ideas I dislike:
-Can change your class in game at any time in the game, with only a attribute penalty and a gold penalty.
Reason: Why need 6/8 character slots if you can change your class, besides this is no fun at all.

Sister Rosette · Oct 10, 2005, 09:11 AM // 09:11

"Warriors needs to be increased in role in the society"

And this has to be the most blatantly retarded thing I've ever read.
Assuming this person even plays GW in between circle jerks in WoW,
he'd realize that you can't swing a dead imp without hitting about
40 MILLION warriors. Especially with the IWAY build becoming public
knowledge.

The crafter would probably shatter any semblance of economy that
GW still has. Gold would more than likely become worthless, as would
a lot of items.

Necros are hella powerful. Obviously you've never played one past the Searing.

"
-Elementalists should be able to do a command that could fire at the same as other Elementalists in their group, using the same skill under a command function Like a 5.4.3.2.1. Fire!!! System."

It's called focus fire. Try it sometime.

"Armor should be unique for each profession."
I could have sworn it already was.

In closing, here's a /tip:
Try beating the game and actually going places and doing quests
before you open your mouth about what needs to be made more like
WoW.

If this came off as bitter it was. I'm sick of reading how this game needs
to become Wars of Guildcraft to please adolescent teens.

Enflorence · Oct 10, 2005, 07:51 PM // 19:51

I'm sorry if *****MY***** Opinion doesn't go along with you "Hardcore" players, but I dont care. I probably should've never even registered for these forums just to be ridiculed by a bunch of teenagers. I don't believe in any way I ever made fun of you, if I did my appologies... As for being called a bitch/homosexual "Wow get a life man" for god's sake its just a game, and this is just a forum. It's not like the developers are going to look at every single freakin post in this forum and use it in their next updates. Read my posts before even posting... god! I even left footnotes for the people that never even saw. I noticed that you guys just ruin these forums, by having a post count experience ranking. I might be new to these forums but been to plenty more, and this I gotta say was one of the were ever moderated forum. I don't play WoW just to clerify but I'm about to start... Seeing on how you guys all oppose WoW for some strange reason, wouldn't know why... Also By unique weapons I mean't for every class not just for Warriors if you were inferring that. As for SWG, it ruined it self when coming out with the CU, thats why I quit it. I was just throwing suggestions but I guess it turned out that this thread should just get trashed, think I will stick with guild forums next time... Not so much immature hardcore players on it =) HF GL

Also used the the stars as sarcasim =)

Mumoto · Oct 10, 2005, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by Enflorence

I'm sorry if *****MY***** Opinion doesn't go along with you "Hardcore" players, but I dont care. I probably should've never even registered for these forums just to be ridiculed by a bunch of teenagers. I don't believe in any way I ever made fun of you, if I did my appologies... As for being called a bitch/homosexual "Wow get a life man" for god's sake its just a game, and this is just a forum. It's not like the developers are going to look at every single freakin post in this forum and use it in their next updates. Read my posts before even posting... god! I even left footnotes for the people that never even saw. I noticed that you guys just ruin these forums, by having a post count experience ranking. I might be new to these forums but been to plenty more, and this I gotta say was one of the were ever moderated forum. I don't play WoW just to clerify but I'm about to start... Seeing on how you guys all oppose WoW for some strange reason, wouldn't know why... Also By unique weapons I mean't for every class not just for Warriors if you were inferring that. As for SWG, it ruined it self when coming out with the CU, thats why I quit it. I was just throwing suggestions but I guess it turned out that this thread should just get trashed, think I will stick with guild forums next time... Not so much immature hardcore players on it =) HF GL

Also used the the stars as sarcasim =)

Ehm sorry if you act like this just leave, we're not making fun of you we're pointing out that a lot of your idea's won't help the game to stay unique, in balance and fun to play.

I have ideas too, and if they get ranted on I won't blame the forum for it, besides this game is not WoW nor would I like having it look like WoW and neither do the rest of the people, there are a few ideas that are also in WoW and some other rpg's, some of them might be of use and some of them may not.

This post of yours is IMMATURE, you're blaming us for lots of stuff and act like you're 'Mature' just because we don't like some of your ideas.

We know it's a game and we know it's a forum, and umm I'm not a hardcore player, I play a few hours a day for about 2 weeks so i'm still a noob.

Overreacting is one thing children do, and you're definitely overreacting by saying 'I probably should've never even registered for these forums just to be ridiculed by a bunch of teenagers.', go to a shrink and solve your mental problems before you join a forum

To make it short:
Dude you're 35 years old ACT like one, we just point out our opinion about your ideas, and everyone will give their opinion on everyone's ideas, so don't think that we're picking on you or something.

The Red Knight · Oct 10, 2005, 10:31 PM // 22:31

Go Play wow

Shinomori · Oct 10, 2005, 10:37 PM // 22:37

OK, now, some of these ideas aren't bad.

Personally, I rather like the running idea. I don't approve of running, but I do think the system is far too corrupt. It makes me sad.

Crafter = bad. Simply put. You can't have such a blatant money farmer.

Adrenaline bar.....um, maybe. I could see where it would help, but it's not that hard of a concept. See the flames go away, then use the skill.

1v1 PvP - Not in towns. Maybe it takes you to a separate place. I'd love to do it however. Just because I'm a Ranger and can beat on some fools with my running away tactics.

I'll get to the rest later, my little sister has a band concert and I have to go see it.

Just you wait.

Mumoto · Oct 10, 2005, 11:22 PM // 23:22

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Originally Posted by Shinomori

OK, now, some of these ideas aren't bad.

Personally, I rather like the running idea. I don't approve of running, but I do think the system is far too corrupt. It makes me sad.

Crafter = bad. Simply put. You can't have such a blatant money farmer.

Adrenaline bar.....um, maybe. I could see where it would help, but it's not that hard of a concept. See the flames go away, then use the skill.

1v1 PvP - Not in towns. Maybe it takes you to a separate place. I'd love to do it however. Just because I'm a Ranger and can beat on some fools with my running away tactics.

I'll get to the rest later, my little sister has a band concert and I have to go see it.

Just you wait.

Same as what I said, but lots of people just look at the bad things and not the good things

Eltargrim · Oct 11, 2005, 01:44 AM // 01:44

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Same as what I said, but lots of people just look at the bad things and not the good things

That's because the bad things are so glaring they overshadow the good things.

And Enflorence, you don't have to be "hardcore" to notice ideas that weren't thought through and would unbalance the game. You don't have to be "hardcore" to oppose ideas that would destroy everything that Guild Wars is. And we don't oppose WoW for the sake of opposing WoW. We oppose WoW because, invariably, somebody who liked it posts suggestions that would turn Guild Wars into WoW. Or, in your case, Guild Wars into SWG.

Once again, I reiterate: Guild Wars is a Competitive Online Role-Playing Game, not a Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game. That is why your MMO suggestions would not work. And the reason you were bashed for the Warrior/Necromancer comments is because they are pitifully uninformed. We have no problem with ideas in of themselves; we have a problem with the ignorance that accompanies them.

Finish the game and come back and look at your suggestions. Chances are you'll see why we reacted like we did.

Shinomori · Oct 11, 2005, 02:22 AM // 02:22

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Originally Posted by Enflorence

-Warriors needs to be increased in role in the society... Also stronger, faster, more energy. And a seperate new adrenaline bar. Along with major new skills for weapons.

-More realistic actions to skills, such as a bash with a hammer should at least stun another person for a few mins,

-Elementalists should be able to do a command that could fire at the same as other Elementalists in their group, using the same skill under a command function Like a 5.4.3.2.1. Fire!!! System.

-Necromancers should be more powerful!!! They are pretty lame, for being such a fun profession.

-Rangers should have more control over pets, like could tame pets certain attack frequences with out shouting it to them. Also crossbows!!!

-Monks should be able to have a martial arts kinda combat kinda attribute. Just for self protection, such as meditation to recieve defense bonuses and maybe other bonuses like healing.

-Mesmers should maybe have a sort of "Stealth" technique, which could inhibit the "Chaos" in their profession.

-Once reaching level cap, people can still gain attribute points (But just like 1 per level up) And maybe 2-3 skill points.

-No more max damage!!! There should be a damage average but not a max damage! So pvp can be more interesting.. Such as crafters can increase weapons damage and attributes and other things.
-Armor will now have no more max protection...

I'm pretty sure these are the ones that got you in trouble.

1. You mean to tell me you DO NOT think there are enough whammos out there? You want more "haha good smash death whack kill hehehe"? Fine. Make me a Warrior-excluded server while you're at it.

2. Monks have this thing called SMITING, y'know?

3. Ever played against a necro running Life transfer and multi siphon, let alone anything better? I used to run one of those. Think 10 pip helth regen most of the time.

4. Mesmers? Stealth? Why not just give them a 1-1000000000000 damage weapon? You can't give stealth with the health as low as it is. It will unbalance it. Because even a hit for +1 damage would do 23. That's 1/20th of someone's hp. Without the chance of reprisal.

5. More attribute points. Yes, let's reward people without lives. OMG I HAVE 28 MILLION IN ALL STATS OMG.

6. Yeah, ok. I used to have almost 1 million gold. Basically, you're saying I could upgrade my weapon to the point where I could kill people in 3 hits. And that's not good.

Other than that, I rather like some of the others.

Oh, and I almost forgot.

6.5. Most battles don't even last for a few minutes. I've been under 1 minute on some 4v4s. You mean to say you want warriors to put someone on their arse the ENTIRE MATCH?

Eltargrim · Oct 11, 2005, 02:45 AM // 02:45

Shinomori, bang on. Those glaring examples of random, unfinished thought are what brought the wrath of the forum down on Enflorence. The ones that got me were...well, all of them.

One and Two · Oct 11, 2005, 04:13 AM // 04:13

Here's the thing that pisses me off. This dipshit who hasn't even finished the PvE section of this game claims he's better than us and more knowledgeble. Then the bitchass flames us and talks shit about these forums. OK gg you're 30.

THE REASON WE TELL YOU TO PLAY WOW IS CUS YOU DESCRIBE WOW IN YOUR F*CKING POST YOU RETARD